Daniel Amos Message Board | Print: Ultimate Horrendous Disc Update?

Posted by Curly on 08-01-2007 at06:16:

Thanks Myron, I knew that I could depend on your honest opinion. I think I will rush right over to Larry Norman's web site and order the CD.
Then I will patiently wait to see if Larry releases the tapes to DA.
I have stated that I think Larry should release the tapes as people are into unreleased and obscure tracks.(here is your hint myron)

Posted by Curly on 08-01-2007 at09:01:

Speaking of unreleased tapes-----
Myron, have you ever heard of Rev. Milton Brunson and the Thompson community singers. Or The locally known to Chicago, Chase with Jimmy Peterick? Or how about The Good News Circle? I have some remixed studio tapes from masters of these guys. Even some live Lamb from the mid 70's.
Have had these in the vault for 30 years and nobody has listened to this stuff, (except myself).
None of it is for sale, I was a student and used these as training material.

Posted by Audiori J on 08-01-2007 at09:25:

Larry won't release any tapes. In fact in the contract negotiations he originally wanted some "real estate", while in true Freudlian Projectionist form said we were trying to get things from him.

But, thats ok I think since we have copies of most of what he has, and Terry owns the copyright to most of what Larry has except for the actual album. Terry also owns the publishing to the album, so techincally Larry should be paying royalties for the CD sales to Terry.

We wanted to include Larry in this release to make it an ultimate Horrendous Disc, since he can't legally release the bonus material and we can't legally release the album. But we can and will figure out a package of sessions from the period and release the bonus material ourselves.

Posted by Curly on 08-01-2007 at10:29:

Good for you guys that you can make work around plans. To bad Larry is missing out on a blessing that God gives to us when we "give" to others.
I know Larry has been giving all of his life in his Ministry and has been continuing to give, but as I get older, I find out that it just doesn't matter in the bigger picture of "Glory".
Hey, here is an idea, Just change the name of the album. You know like from "Horrendous Disk" to Something like "Awful Platter".

It worked for the album from "Frizbee" to "Slinky".

Can't we all just get along.

Posted by Zudrak on 08-01-2007 at11:16:

quote:

Originally posted by Curly
Good for you guys that you can make work around plans. To bad Larry is missing out on a blessing that God gives to us when we "give" to others.
I know Larry has been giving all of his life in his Ministry and has been continuing to give, but as I get older, I find out that it just doesn't matter in the bigger picture of "Glory".
Hey, here is an idea, Just change the name of the album. You know like from "Horrendous Disk" to Something like "Awful Platter".

It worked for the album from "Frizbee" to "Slinky".

Can't we all just get along.

You'd think that would be possible amongst fellow believers. Dying to self sometimes involves killing the "old man" and I guess that's harder done than said. Prayers for this situation so that we, the fans, can get some of these goodies on CD.

Posted by Audiori J on 08-01-2007 at11:37:

Getting along would mean walking in the spirit as opposed to the flesh, we need Uncle Terry's "Throne O Meter"... even in 'ministries' there is a lot of walking in the flesh. The sad part is as Galations 5 says those that live that way will not enter the Kingdom of God. They may say "Lord, Lord.." but he will say "I never knew you."

As far as the Horrendous Disc project, all we can say is we tried for a year to get Larry to work with us on it. The deal we offered him was we would do all the work, we would pay for the restoration of tapes, we would pay for manufacturing, and we would give him 50% of the discs. It would be a situation where he would basically have to do nothing, pay for nothing, and with every printing of the two discs (album and bonus stuff), he would get 500 that he could sell for $20 or $30 or whatever he chose. We even said we would show him the artwork before its printed for his approval.

We thought it would be a really cool project for Solid Rock and Stunt to work together. Especially since neither of us can put out the combination alone legally. But I guess the deal we offered just wasn't good enough for Larry. So, he will print the album and we will print the bonus material.

Posted by Myron on 08-01-2007 at12:02:

Does Larry have any potential bonus material that you don't have?

Posted by Myron on 08-01-2007 at12:05:

[quote]Originally posted by Curly
Speaking of unreleased tapes-----
Myron, have you ever heard of Rev. Milton Brunson and the Thompson community singers. Or The locally known to Chicago, Chase with Jimmy Peterick? Or how about The Good News Circle? I have some remixed studio tapes from masters of these guys. Even some live Lamb from the mid 70's.
Have had these in the vault for 30 years and nobody has listened to this stuff, (except myself).

No, I haven't heard of those artists, other than Lamb. BTW, I didn't catch what your clue was in your previous post, but I have a feeling we must know each other from the Larry or Jesus Music list, but you have a different alias?

Posted by navfox on 08-01-2007 at12:50:

Whats wrong with Larry website, its all broken and stuff. www.larrynorman.com

Posted by Phy on 08-01-2007 at13:37:

Worked for me.

Posted by Audiori J on 08-01-2007 at14:09:

quote:

Originally posted by Myron
Does Larry have any potential bonus material that you don't have?

Not really.

Posted by navfox on 08-01-2007 at15:00:

go to his online store, its blank and pages are huge with nothing in them.

Posted by Myron on 08-01-2007 at15:09:

quote:

Originally posted by Audiori J

quote:

Originally posted by Myron
Does Larry have any potential bonus material that you don't have?

Not really.

Not really kinda implies that there could be something perhaps minor, can you be any more specific? Are we talking perhpas some alternate mixes you don't have or some live stuff? Is there actuall documentation from back then of what the potential tracks are, since that is a long time ago to try and go by memory as to what might of been available.
And off the top of my head, here are guesses as to what might be included as bonus tracks:
-So Certain
-I'm On Your Team (live?)
-Fairy Tale
-After All These Years
-I Can't Get You Outta My Mind
-Little Things
-Bad Boy Johnny (live?)
-Happily Married Man
Am I on the right track? Is there other stuff we won't even have heard of before?

Posted by audiori on 08-01-2007 at15:47:

I doubt Larry has any live stuff... maybe some alternate mixes that we don't have - not sure. It seems like everything from that time was mixed and remixed a dozen times.

Theres actually a bunch of unreleased songs from that era.. only a few have been released in any form.

For example: "So Certain" (previously released), "Laisez-Faire" (previously released), "UFO", "Tonight", "Twilight love" (A live version of this song was later released as a bonus track on "Our Personal Favorite World Famous Hits), "Hello Aloha", "The Wonder Is You", "Talk", "I'll Be Right Here Waiting", "Cinema Girl", "She Gets To Me", "Noelle", "Taking A Fall", and "Weather Girl". Theres also a bunch of odd live tracks like a really early version of "Hound of Heaven" and other odds n' ends. Plus some demos and early versions laying around of various songs. Its bound to be a fun collection of rarities.

Theres even a version of the original Horrendous Disc cover idea sitting around.

Posted by Myron on 08-01-2007 at19:04:

Thanks for that....are the unreleased songs full studio recordings or more like demos? Is there orchestration on any of them? Were these recordings that were geared more to a secular contract with Warner/Curb by any chance?

Posted by jyroflux on 08-01-2007 at19:28:

quote:

Originally posted by navfox
go to his online store, its blank and pages are huge with nothing in them.

"THE STORE IS CURRENTLY UNDER RE-CONSTRUCTION. WE APOLOGIZE FOR ANY INCONVENIENCE."

Posted by .backs. on 08-01-2007 at19:36:

Did everybody see that Larry is in concert in NYC on Saturday?

Posted by Audiori J on 08-01-2007 at22:42:

There is a bunch of studio tracks and a bunch of demos. Some of the demos are 4 track and some are 16 track. There are about 10 studio tracks that we and Larry have that were studio demos that were meant to shop around to labels, not just warner curb. We actually have multiple masters of those, some have different mixes. They did actually record the Horrendous Disc album originally for Maranatha! and we have that master. Its different than the Solid Rock version, and could be released by us since it is a different recording altogether.

"Happily Married Man" wasn't part of the solid rock era by the way.

Posted by wakachiwaka on 08-01-2007 at22:49:

Something that slightly bugged me about the HD CD re-issue was the very audible (at least through headphones) artifacting from the digital noise reduction. Hopefully that can be avoided during the remastering of any "new" material from that era.