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Posted by Mountain Fan on 02-26-2019 at22:31:

Wink

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Originally posted by WoaaahJelly!
Another note- I may have posted this before- my turntable is a silver linear-tracking front-loading Radio Shack one I bought around 1985. It worked well the last time I used it (a year or two ago). But I may have noted here when I played "Dig Here..." it was too slow. My theory is that I never before tried to spin a piece of heavyweight vinyl on it , thus I never noticed the defect. I'll need to get a better one.

Some time back, when I got an original HD LP off eBay and converted to MP3 via turntable and computer, my first attempt sounded slow. I would suggest reading up a bit on your turntable and maybe a drop of a light oil on the motor shaft bushings would get it spinning right again Wink

and there are places mostly online now that sell rubber belts if you need that too.

Posted by WoaaahJelly! on 02-27-2019 at02:35:

Thank you for the advice. It is 30 years old and may need some maintenance. I've also been hitting all the thrift shops looking for old turntables.

Posted by wayneb on 05-17-2019 at01:31:

You will still have to do some work on an old turntable from a thrift shop, if it isn't going to damage your albums potentially. Getting a new stylus set up, the cartridge aligned properly, correct racking weight....it's enough to make me wish for a music player that just works! Hey, those cd things were ok, weren't they??

Posted by WoaaahJelly! on 05-17-2019 at01:58:

Thank you for the advice and you reminded me of what I would like to do, if possible. Of course they sell new turntables and record players, but the quality is low and these will just eat your record grooves. I wonder if any companies specialize in selling new turntables of high quality like in the old days so we don't have to fool with rehabbing 30 year old units. These would not be some crazy audiophile units, but I would pay $200-$300 for a good modern turntable.

Posted by WoaaahJelly! on 05-17-2019 at02:21:

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Originally posted by wayneb
You will still have to do some work on an old turntable from a thrift shop, if it isn't going to damage your albums potentially. Getting a new stylus set up, the cartridge aligned properly, correct racking weight....it's enough to make me wish for a music player that just works! Hey, those cd things were ok, weren't they??

I'm not 100% sure why we/I are doing this vinyl revival thing. The sound is not as good as digital obviously. But there is something soothing, calming about audible noise.

I could do this in the interim- I could rip "Dig Here..." and HD to the digital domain and apply a speed adjustment so Uncle Terry et al* don't sound sad and like he's just getting over the flu. That analog sound is really appealing and sounds just as good to me when ripped to digital.

*Aunty Jerry? that sounds about right

Posted by Audiori J on 05-17-2019 at19:03:

https://diffuser.fm/laser-turntable/

http://www.elpj.com/

Posted by Ron E on 05-18-2019 at21:24:

For a mere 15000!!! Smile

Posted by joey on 05-22-2019 at11:51:

Cool

"i like cds.." carl simmons Big Grin

Posted by PuP on 05-22-2019 at23:47:

"I like glockenspiels." - not Carl Simmons

Posted by mindgasket on 05-28-2019 at07:43:

Here’s my setup. A lot less than $15,000 and it sounds great!
Denon DP-300F with Audio Engine 5 speakers

Posted by WoaaahJelly! on 09-07-2019 at12:05:

Okay- it's been

TAKE TWO:

I'm finally really busting into the HD LP box I got months ago. The actual disks come in white slips that I would guess came from the presser in Munchkin Land, so I am trying to match the disk with glossy covers. Wouldn't think it would be this hard. It could be i'm raetrded and no one told me? Get right back to you...

Posted by WoaaahJelly! on 09-07-2019 at16:05:

Finally got the various HD disks matched to their glossy slips. Listened to that for a bit and started in on some 45s from thrift stores. Now I'm spinning "Dig Here...". I'm pleased to report no pitch problems like before. Maybe I imagined that; maybe the turntable is mounted better; maybe the belts tightened/loosened; maybe angels French-kissed the crystals. Hearing now "Now That I've Died" and once again fixated on the bass line.

Posted by WoaaahJelly! on 09-08-2019 at16:33:

Just finished the green disk and it is evocative. "Man In The Mood" is dreamy. When I hear it I always feel like it's dusk in the late fall and I must get inside where it is warm, and go to bed, where I may possibly dream of a Man In The Moon.

Posted by Jimmy Brown on 09-10-2019 at09:23:

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Originally posted by WoaaahJelly!
"Man In The Mood" is dreamy.

Is this the song about sondance and his wife reading Tolkien?

Posted by WoaaahJelly! on 09-10-2019 at13:36:

That's awesome, Jimmy! The typo stays. Smile

Posted by WoaaahJelly! on 09-17-2019 at02:11:

Have listened to "Ten Biggies..." several times now. With the green and red disks I was satisfied with just one pass each. This one needs more time. Note that it is a clear (untinted, or undyed I suppose) vinyl. When you hold it up in the light, it does appear clear, minus some softness from the grooves. But when you place it on the platter to play it, the color changes. My turntable has a black rubber mat. I won't spoil it for those who have not seen it, but it is not "clear" anymore. Neither is it black like the mat.

Posted by Audiori J on 09-17-2019 at14:17:

Ten Biggies was one of several 4 track demos that were recorded back then. It seems a couple of those old 4-track demos were dubbed off to a master reel tape and then the 4 track tape recorded over. Luckily in the case of the Ten Biggies the 4 track tapes still exist, so we used that and had them professionally mixed and mastered. Thats why they sound so much better than the other 4-track demos on the CD version. Some of those other demos only have survived in cassette form.

I thought "Taking A Fall" sound a lot like a pre-Daniel Amos Terry track.

Posted by Mountain Fan on 10-01-2019 at23:02:

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Originally posted by WoaaahJelly!
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I'm not 100% sure why we/I are doing this vinyl revival thing. The sound is not as good as digital obviously. ...

It's all about perspective. Vinyl on a decent turntable DOES sound better than low bitrate digital AAC/MP3 that those of a certain age range mostly listened to on iPods (to get more songs with limited memory) or perhaps mobile (non-WiFi) streaming (to save data and/or be playable without stop/start buffering).

Hope that makes sense Big Grin