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Posted by jiminy on 03-14-2008 at23:26:

 

I agree that many bands are unintentionally affected by what the mainest of streams is doing.......
its all you hear everywhere(at the given time)

- and I think as a musician it makes the tuning fork hum, and you pick up on it in your own style and creative way.

Not plagerizing- but it just occurs. Why would- say- the Beatles want to sound like the Beach Boys in any way-? - but they openly admitted to being affected by what was being broadcast at the time

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Posted by dennis on 03-15-2008 at04:12:

 

Of course. Nevermind changed the whole music industry from lookinig and "sounding" like this:




To looking and sounding like this:

and this:



and even this:


More stripped down, basic and "honest." IMHO.

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Posted by DwDunphy on 03-15-2008 at08:14:

 

"...More stripped down, basic and "honest." IMHO."

Which now sounds dated, too. Now everyone wants to sound like this...



And this...



And a little like this...

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Posted by dennis on 03-15-2008 at08:49:



^Yup.

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Posted by Mountain Fan on 03-15-2008 at08:55:

 

quote:

Originally posted by DwDunphy quote: Originally posted by Mountain Fan quote: Originally posted by dennis quote: Originally posted by DwDunphy I always heard The Kinks when hearing "Constance", Me too. As far as Steely Dan, I was specifically referring ONLY to the lead guitar solo in the middle of the song ... it sounds a lot like Elliot Randall's guitar solo on Reeling In The Years. The overall song sounds nothing like SD but I do really like the overall feel and progression of it. I also hear that guitar tone on "Bodhisattva", so I know just what you mean. Structurally, and using inverts of the chords of "Tired Of Waiting For You", it's Kinky.

let's see if i remember correctly? inverted chords are where the root is played on the highest-pitched string rather than the lowest-pitched one? and usually only 3 or perhaps 4 strings are played instead of 5 or 6 (so notes aren't usually doubled)?

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Posted by Jimmy Brown on 03-17-2008 at08:59:

 

Close. Inverted chords are ones where the root of the chord is not the lowest note.

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Posted by MarkyMark77 on 03-17-2008 at09:56:

 

quote:

More stripped down, basic and "honest." IMHO.

Yep. Still like "Nevermind". Though "In Utero" is probably my favorite. "Serve the Servants" is one of my favorite tracks.

quote:

Now everyone wants to sound like this...

Blech!!!!

In the mid to late 60's, popular music and innovation and artistry actually combined. That happened somewhat in the early 90's, too, and most of us music fans are waiting to see it happen again so that our kids stop listening to crap!

Although there are some (not very much, though) good top 40 songs in all the mainstream genres (rock, r&b, crap, country, etc.,) they're so few and far between.

As for me, I'll be glad when the whiny, pseudo-punk band concept dies. Oh Green Day, what have ye wrought? Fall Out Boy and Plain White T's, that's what!

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Posted by MarkyMark77 on 03-17-2008 at10:02:

 

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/music/2008/03/17/2008-03-17_mariah
_carey_poised_to_tie_record_for_no-1.html

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Posted by dennis on 03-17-2008 at10:49:

How about this record?

During the week of 4 April 1964, The Beatles held twelve positions on Billboard Hot 100 singles chart, including the top five positions, which has never been accomplished by any other band or artist to date.


1 "Can't Buy Me Love" (Capitol Records),
2 "Twist and Shout" (Tollie Records),
3 "She Loves You" (Swan Records),
4 "I Want to Hold Your Hand" (Capitol)
5 "Please Please Me" (Vee-Jay)

In addition, seven other Beatles singles occupied lower places on the chart.

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Posted by colorblind on 03-27-2008 at18:13:

 

I think this thread has lost focus!

"Theo's Logic" is brilliant!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted by Ritchie_az on 07-04-2008 at15:19:

  Low Crawls and High Times

Bibleland is one of my least favorite DA albums. Bibleland is a very good album. Every DA album is, at least, very good.
I love Out In The Cold, especially the bass line. This, and the bass line to the 77's God Sends Quails, are two of my favorites. (I know Tim was never in the 77's). Mr. Chandler is such a great bass player...in fact, I purchased Fernando Ortega's album Home (which is actually pretty good) just because I heard he played bass on it.
The song that is most personal to me is Bakersfield. My in-laws live in Lake Isabella (they own a restaraunt there), which is a 40 minute drive east of Bakersfield through a winding canyon road, and each visit usually means a trip to Bakersfield for supplies. Nobody ever wants to go to Bakersfield, but, you know, for family, you'll do it.
Well, about 10 months ago, my father-in-law passed away at a Bakersfield hospital in much the same manor as Terry's father. I often wonder if it was the same hospital, perhaps even at the hands of the same doctors.
Incompetence, tubes and wires
Indifference, fools and liars
Aggravate, regulate, resuscitate
suffocated him
It's really sad to think about, really. But, even through the pain, God is still there, feeding us manna from Wendy's, I guess.
I wouldn't ever go back to Bakersfield if I could help it.
To get back on track, I give Bibleland a spin from time-to-time, but, mostly, I just listen to those two songs.

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Posted by Dr Rich on 07-04-2008 at18:00:

Thanks for the thoughts.

Love the BibleLand.

I know I am in the minority on this one!

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Posted by James on 07-04-2008 at20:01:

 

Whoo hoo! My thread is back like Lazarus!

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Posted by Dr Rich on 07-04-2008 at23:28:

 

Riches to rags I come from the grave,
Moved by the power of your voice.

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Posted by Ritchie_az on 07-06-2008 at22:18:

  Oops

quote:

my father-in-law passed away at a Bakersfield hospital in much the same manor as Terry's father.

Oops. I meant Terry's grandfather, if I'm not mistaken.

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Posted by nwray1 on 07-07-2008 at12:52:

 

Love Bibleland! Gets better with each listen. What I'd like to add to all the above is the way this record ends, the last four songs, are genius. I have always admired the way Terry's records are structured, the way they flow, and Bibleland is a great example of this. It is almost a crime not to listen to this record from start to finish, every time!

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Posted by wayneb on 07-07-2008 at17:53:

 

Yes. I was just at the right time in my life to really appreciate Bibleland when it first came out.
I was thinking that my time as a relevant musician (all right....drummer) was pretty much over, and these guys who had been at it more than 10 years longer than me came out with this blast of energy, vitriol, and (somehow) reflectiveness that is Biblelend.

RIGHT NOW! RIGHT NOW!

There's an album in me yet...

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Posted by Dr Rich on 07-07-2008 at20:29:

 

quote:

Originally posted by nwray1 It is almost a crime not to listen to this record from start to finish, every time!

That is true of pretty much any DA, Eddie, TST outing.

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Posted by wakachiwaka on 07-07-2008 at20:30:

 

quote:

Originally posted by nwray1 What I'd like to add to all the above is the way this record ends, the last four songs, are genius.

Funny - IMHO the album starts running out of gas right after "Constance Of The Universe"...

Guess it all depends on how you look at these things.

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Posted by James on 07-08-2008 at10:14:

 

quote:

Originally posted by wakachiwaka quote: Originally posted by nwray1 What I'd like to add to all the above is the way this record ends, the last four songs, are genius. Funny - IMHO the album starts running out of gas right after "Constance Of The Universe"... Guess it all depends on how you look at these things.

What?!

How can you not love I'll Get Over It and Stone Away (She's Working Here I can understand, though I like it)? To me, those two songs offer a refreshing melodic break from the raucous ruckus of the middle portion of the album.