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Posted by jon eddies on 04-21-2008 at23:32:

  VH/Alarma

Dude! I graduated in '90 too. I didn't really like most of the new wave synth stuff then either, but for one reason or another at the time VH stood out.
I was more into the punk and metal scenes. I liked some the alternative stuff from the late 80's too. I'm a guitar player as I said before and I was OK with the syth stuff if I could also hear the guitar too. But with DA stuff the lyrric were so deep, and the melodies so quirky that I couldn't help but like it.



Posted by bereal on 04-22-2008 at15:04:

 

quote:
Originally posted by DwDunphy
Life begins at conception. Arthritis begins at 40.


shhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!



Posted by dennis on 04-22-2008 at16:46:

 

quote:
Originally posted by RoxxRegime
I've never even heard Vh or DFBB. Frown


Shocked



Posted by ahanson on 04-23-2008 at10:08:

  VH cd's

Radrockers.com has Vox Humana cd's for $10.....anyone know if these are legit? Don't know if they're the same as the one I bought from da.com 10 years ago.

Adam



Posted by jyroflux on 04-23-2008 at14:38:

  RE: VH cd's

quote:
Originally posted by ahanson
Radrockers.com has Vox Humana cd's for $10.....anyone know if these are legit? Don't know if they're the same as the one I bought from da.com 10 years ago.


It's hard to say. It's listed as a "CDR" and here's the blurb:

This is the third of four recordings comprising The Alarma Chronicles. Sadly the other three are currently unavailable, and we're rapidly running out of this one also. Vox Humana was originally released on Refuge Records in 1984, then re-issued several times in the 90s by Heartland and Pulse. Not much is known about Pulse. They appear to have been a division of a compnay called Alternative Music Group, but little is known about them either. Apparently when Refuge Records/Pure Metal Records went bankrupt, they either licensed or sold a bunch of their recordings to this new company formed by disgruntled former Refuge Records employees, who then created a new record label called Pulse. These copies were purchased from Pulse in 1999, but were manufactured using the old Refuge Records artwork. We realize that all this is confusing, thus this effort to clarify things. Apparently Pulse didn't want to spend the money to change the artwork, thus causing confusion in later years for collectors. Along with its predecessors Alarma and Doppelganger, these three recordings are the greatest examples in the history of CCM of 'sanctified weirdness.' It illustrates wonderfully Jesus' parable of the wineskins. The old, old story of the gospel must continually be handed from generation to generation in new wineskins, or the wine will spill and be lost. Long before Comedy Central, Daniel Amos (and their even zanier cousins The Swirling Eddies), were helping well educated believers yuck it up while swimming up the stream of popular culture. But it's not all yucks. Nuclear proliferation gets punked, a great Romantic poet is honored, and the closing track is a powerful reminder that the only safe refuge we have in this sin-wracked world is God. Songs include: 'Travelog,' 'Rocket Packs,' 'Home Permanent,' 'Sick,' 'William Blake,' 'Dance Stop,' 'Live and Let Live,' 'When Worlds Collide,' 'As the World Turns,' 'She's All Heart,' 'The Incredible Shrinking Man,' and 'Sanctuary.' 12 songs TT: 46:06 Going, going, almost gone.



Posted by DwDunphy on 04-23-2008 at16:18:

 

Just a thought - even though it's unlikely we'll see the Alarma Bookset reprinted, individual CDs from the four albums aren't impossible. VH for $10 is clearly not (sniff sniff) springtime fresh, as Ebay often runs the price of originals way up there (even if it is a screwed up version).

Just hang in there. 'Sall I ask. You know the Band and the Audis want to do this. It's not like waiting for Steve Taylor to reissue "I Predict 1990" (it'll never happen, I tells ya).



Posted by audiori on 04-23-2008 at18:02:

 

The RadRockers Vox Humana CDRs are not legit. We have reports that they are extremely cheap and really crappy copies - and, of course, Terry doesn't see any of this money. Its been removed before and will be again... they seem very persistent in bootlegging this title (and a few others, actually).

We know who's bootlegging them and I wouldn't give them a dime of my hard earned money. I doubt anyone on this board would want to either.



Posted by Mark on 04-23-2008 at18:45:

 

Not cool



Posted by jyroflux on 04-23-2008 at18:49:

 

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Posted by Mark on 04-23-2008 at19:02:

 

I know. I haven't done anything about it.



Posted by dennis on 04-23-2008 at19:24:

 

Pleased



Posted by dennis on 04-23-2008 at19:30:

 

quote:
Originally posted by jyroflux
^ Your sig image is gone.

As of February 1st, 2008 the ImageStation online service is permanently closed. We sincerely appreciate the patronage of all our friends and members. Thank you for your support.



quote:
Originally posted by Mark
I know. I haven't done anything about it.


Just remove it, please! Happy



Posted by jyroflux on 04-23-2008 at19:32:

 

quote:
Originally posted by dennis
quote:
Originally posted by Mark
I know. I haven't done anything about it.


Just remove it, please! Happy

Or add a pic of Dennis. Big Grin



Posted by dennis on 04-23-2008 at20:31:

 

quote:
Originally posted by jyroflux
quote:
Originally posted by dennis
quote:
Originally posted by Mark
I know. I haven't done anything about it.


Just remove it, please! Happy

Or add a pic of Dennis. Big Grin



Posted by larryl on 04-23-2008 at20:35:

 

quote:
Originally posted by audiori
The RadRockers Vox Humana CDRs are not legit. We have reports that they are extremely cheap and really crappy copies - and, of course, Terry doesn't see any of this money. Its been removed before and will be again... they seem very persistent in bootlegging this title (and a few others, actually).

We know who's bootlegging them and I wouldn't give them a dime of my hard earned money. I doubt anyone on this board would want to either.


does it ship from michigan? Big Grin



Posted by jiminy on 04-23-2008 at21:04:

 

well lets be a bt more fair-

in that I dont blame Radrockers at this point. They are doing their best explaining what happened- and are not to charge (in my view)

Terry doesnt get ANY MONEY from radrockers for anything they sell- NO artist does- and I would think that unless they sold TO Radrockers direct- they get no money from the purchasing Radrockers does.

Radrockers has the connections to buy after market CDS- the original artists would nt see any of that money wouldn't they??
The "Legit" label falls off the map by the time you see it at Radrockers. Unless they are peddling it directly through Pulse (or whoever) they are buying things that the artist is out of the loop on.

If you went after Pulse now- theyd be worth less scratch than - well than Old Scratch himself. (now)

My two cents



Posted by audiori on 04-23-2008 at21:08:

 

Its not "Pulse" doing it.

I really have no clue why they're choosing to get hooked up with someone doing this. These are newly bootlegged.. the same person is bootlegging a few other titles as well, including "demos" from a certain artist that is completely horrified that they're being sold at all. Out of all of these newly bootlegged titles, Vox was the only one that was originally released on Pulse. Las I looked, they all give a similar story of "these copies were bought up when so-and-so went out of business, bla, bla, bla."


Its true that the band doesn't see money from much of the old material that is sold.. but, if it was a legitimate release, they would receive royalties (at least, in theory). I mean, even the old KMG or BEC titles that are bought up are generating some kind of royalties - at least originally. And, as you say, anything the artist sells to them is making money for the band.. which we've done in the past. No one is legitimately making money off of these bootlegs.



Posted by RoxxRegime on 04-23-2008 at21:09:

 

So, what this all boils down to is...

It's gonna be a LOOOONG time before I'll ever hear Vox Humana Frown



Posted by audiori on 04-23-2008 at21:12:

 

Not necessarily.



Posted by ahanson on 04-23-2008 at22:32:

 

Sad and pathetic about the bootleggers.....I know I'll buy another copy of it from the band if it's re-released with bonus tracks, liner notes, rocket packs, etc.....

Adam

quote:
Originally posted by audiori
Its not "Pulse" doing it.

I really have no clue why they're choosing to get hooked up with someone doing this. These are newly bootlegged.. the same person is bootlegging a few other titles as well, including "demos" from a certain artist that is completely horrified that they're being sold at all. Out of all of these newly bootlegged titles, Vox was the only one that was originally released on Pulse. Las I looked, they all give a similar story of "these copies were bought up when so-and-so went out of business, bla, bla, bla."


Its true that the band doesn't see money from much of the old material that is sold.. but, if it was a legitimate release, they would receive royalties (at least, in theory). I mean, even the old KMG or BEC titles that are bought up are generating some kind of royalties - at least originally. And, as you say, anything the artist sells to them is making money for the band.. which we've done in the past. No one is legitimately making money off of these bootlegs.


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