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Posted by Kaf-N-8ed on 05-02-2002 at17:11:

  sound quality

Has anybody ever noticed this problem?

I recently started ramping up my DA / SE collection with CDs. I previously had only been listening to all their great stuff on record albums. Yes, I still have a turn-table that works!

Well, when I got the "Our Personal Favorite World Famous Hits" CD - I noticed that the songs sounded quite a bit different than what I was used to.

I just figured that was because they had probably been re-mixed digitally or something.

But now that I've got my new (used) Vox Hummana CD - I've discovered that's not the case.

This CD appears to be the same as the original record album I have. It doesn't appear to have been re-mixed or remastered or anything.

But to me the music sounds totally different. Like, I can hear all kinds of instruments I didn't hear before. Specifically, there's one song that I can now hear an organ playing in the background, and I can't hear that on my Record Player.

Anybody else notice this?

It's actually a tiny bit of a let down. I was used to the sound (I suppose) of the needle dragging along between the grooves of my record player. And now it ain't there no more...

Help me out here please, am I goin' crazy or what???

~ Kaf

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Posted by BigDork on 05-02-2002 at19:14:

 

quote:

Originally posted by Kaf-N-8ed It's actually a tiny bit of a let down. I was used to the sound (I suppose) of the needle dragging along between the grooves of my record player. And now it ain't there no more... Help me out here please, am I goin' crazy or what??? ~ Kaf

uh, you're complaining cuz the sound is better than before?

I used to ''miss'' the usual cracks and pops.....but I haven't listened to a record in such a long time. I can't remember the exact places for them to happen any more. I think thats a good thing?

BD

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Posted by Shemp on 05-02-2002 at20:32:

 


Go to a quiet place and listen to the tracks with headphones on set at medium level...
You'll be amazed at what you hear.

Each time I listen it seem I pick up new effects in the background.

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Posted by Gamgee on 05-02-2002 at20:55:

  This has absolutely nothing to do with the thread, but...

Has anyone else noticed that the sound quality on Live at Cornerstone 2K is really bad?
Well, I guess it has something to do with the thread.

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Posted by Shemp on 05-02-2002 at21:03:

 

Yup,
I bought it with good intentions...
was very disappointed in the quality.
Now it is part of the collection... collecting dust, sad to say.

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Posted by BigDork on 05-02-2002 at21:11:

 

what did you expect from M8?

all their stuff is bad quality!





maybe not all, but most!

BD

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Posted by Gamgee on 05-02-2002 at21:41:

 

quote:

Originally posted by BigDork what did you expect from M8? all their stuff is bad quality! maybe not all, but most! BD

I was fairly satisfied with the Alarma Chronicles bookset (except for the fact that there was no track listing, and no indication whatsoever of where the albums were split up. Of course, that's not as bad as having an inaccurate track listing, like they do on Live at C2K).

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Posted by BigDork on 05-02-2002 at23:51:

 

I did like the Alarma book set too, I had forgotten that they were part of that.
BD

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Posted by carl on 05-03-2002 at09:42:

  Guess I'm in the minority, but....

....I really dig DA@C2K, warts and all. Heck, if only for Terry's monologue before "Broken Ladders to Glory" it's worth it, but I think it's loads of fun as well.

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Posted by Gamgee on 05-03-2002 at09:44:

 

quote:

Originally posted by carl ....I really dig DA@C2K, warts and all. Heck, if only for Terry's monologue before "Broken Ladders to Glory" it's worth it, but I think it's loads of fun as well.

I like the CD too (any DA live CD can't help but be enjoyable), but the poor sound quality and the track listing that was apparently done by someone on crack still drive me crazy (or crazier, as the case me be )

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Posted by jc on 05-03-2002 at09:54:

  ccm in general

DAMbers-
I have noticed that up thru the late 80s (and even beyond)
Many, many CCm records, tapes, and even cds sound terrible, all the highs missing and muddy.
The tended to work on small budgets, and it shows
give me the crispies anyday...
there are acceptions, but to me the norm was pretty flat.
JiMiny
Its like the Kenny g Christmas CD-
Happy Birthday Jesus- hope you like Crap!

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Posted by carl on 05-03-2002 at10:23:

  Ouch!

LOL, JiMStEr!

Speaking of live performances, I just found out a day or two ago that it was my buddy Rick Deering who supplied the tapes for the extra Shotgun Angel tracks & that big honkin' track at the end of Mark Heard's Mystery Meat, so I feel compelled to give a shout-out for him -- everyone note yr copies appropriately....

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Posted by Joey T. on 05-03-2002 at11:09:

 

quote:

Originally posted by jc DAMbers- I have noticed that up thru the late 80s (and even beyond) Many, many CCm records, tapes, and even cds sound terrible, all the highs missing and muddy. The tended to work on small budgets, and it shows give me the crispies anyday... there are acceptions, but to me the norm was pretty flat. JiMiny Its like the Kenny g Christmas CD- Happy Birthday Jesus- hope you like Crap!

DA is NOT CCM!!!...........but I know what yur saying there jc....

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Posted by samson on 05-08-2002 at05:05:

  sound quality

the sound quality on Shotgun Angel cd( maranatha! not M8 ) is grate!!! Horrendous Disc mix is grate as well

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Posted by audiori on 05-08-2002 at09:01:

  just to clarify...

The Alarma bookset was an M8 project or at least
printed by their distribution company, I mean...label.

But, the disc masters were created by us, the text
to the Chronicles, Radio Shows and Lyrics came from
us, the article text came from the article writers,
the photos came from us and Tom Gulotta, and the artwork
and layout was Brian Heydn's creation.
That didn't leave much for M8 to 'create'.
Even the concept for a entire Alarma Chronicles CD set,
was an old DA idea.. Terry talked about in the HRS
Interview part III,I believe.

The bands tried to continue working with M8, by creating
the masters and artwork to the releases themselves and let M8 just finance and print them. But even that didn't work,
artwork and masters that were fine when they left..were
M8ed for lack of a better term.

I know the bands, DA, Dogs and 77's... were unhappy with the
quality of product that came from that label. And they are determined to start putting out better product even if it means working indipendant. That's why there has been delays
over the last 6 months, as they try to get financially
indipendant. Things are looking good for the near future,
as you can see by the plans that are in motion...

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Posted by BigDork on 05-08-2002 at09:12:

 

quote:

Originally posted by audiori The Alarma bookset was an M8 project or at least printed by their distribution company, I mean...label.

and that was the last one that wasn't totaly screwed up by them.

I think it's worth the wait for Terry and all to get out on their own and have more controll over this stuff.

Woo hoo! Can't wait for new stuff.

Any way for us unfortunate non cornerstoners to get a copy around the same time as cornerstone? Or do we have to suffer through all the reviews untill you guys get back and and set up the store? (not really complaining) Just wondering if you can start selling a few days before you go to cornerstone?

BD














we fans have no shame.................

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Posted by Gamgee on 05-08-2002 at10:20:

 

quote:

Originally posted by audiori The Alarma bookset was an M8 project or at least printed by their distribution company, I mean...label. But, the disc masters were created by us, the text to the Chronicles, Radio Shows and Lyrics came from us, the article text came from the article writers, the photos came from us and Tom Gulotta, and the artwork and layout was Brian Heydn's creation. That didn't leave much for M8 to 'create'.

Well, that explains why the bookset turned out so good.

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Posted by audiori on 05-08-2002 at16:31:

 

We can have stuff set up to order as we go to
Cornerstone, but we won't be able to send stuff out until we get back.

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Posted by Dr Rich on 05-08-2002 at17:00:

 

the bookset was great... I liked the live at C-stone stuff, and did not even mind the other stuff that was "goofed up" a bit... not any worse then that "goofed up" version of VH "the collectors edition" It's Slick? really

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Posted by BigDork on 05-08-2002 at17:51:

 

quote:

Originally posted by audiori We can have stuff set up to order as we go to Cornerstone, but we won't be able to send stuff out until we get back.

Fair enough. Thanks!
BD