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Posted by DaLe on 04-09-2003 at13:16:

 

quote:
Originally posted by EdHead
quote:
Originally posted by joey
...the ones here only carry car(t)man, petra , jars of clay, etc... and want 17 bucks each for that crap! Mad


Speaking of...

I was watching "Time2" with the great car(t)man and John Schiltz was on there singing a cool song, "Show Them"! Reminds me of when I used to listen to "Back to the Street"... Crying




this oNe ?


Posted by brd2yrmother on 04-09-2003 at13:54:

 

quote:
Originally posted by Mark
CD's from Christian Bookstores ARE higher than nearly any other music store, not just Best Buy and Wal-Mart.


I don't think so. Barnes & Noble, Sam Goody, and the others that charge full retail for CDs. Prices are $18.98 for CDs now. I went to B&N the other day looking for something, and I was shocked by the prices. I think the Christian marketplace is generally a dollar less than the general market. That's retail prices. What the discount stores actually sell the CDs for is another matter. The sale prices are usually created by the Record labels too. It's not generally the individual store that determines a sale price on new releases (although some of them do).


Posted by DaLe on 04-09-2003 at14:32:

 

quote:
Originally posted by arcticsunburn
If CCM crap was actually quality music that had substance, that price would be justified. Most of the time I don't buy Christian stuff just 'cause of the price!

It's like, "man, I've heard this album 3 years ago by another artist only not Christian..."


you mean like, Daniel Amos - Horrendous Disc, 1978 is a year after Electric Light Orchestra - Out Of The Blue, 1977

you mean like, Lost Dogs - Scenic Routes, 1992 is 4 years after Traveling Wilburys Vol. 1, 1988


... O.K. O.K.
Let’s face it, there are only twelve notes a man can play.
-- Andrew Schwab -- Project 86


Posted by carl on 04-09-2003 at14:38:

 

Personally, I'd've meant that Horrendous Disk was a year after some bad Steely Dan album (aka some Steely Dan album)....

...and that Scenic Routes was 22 years after Blind Faith (aka another supergroup that actually WORKED).... Tongue


Posted by joey on 04-09-2003 at14:43:

 

quote:
Originally posted by DaLe uReViG
quote:
Originally posted by arcticsunburn
If CCM crap was actually quality music that had substance, that price would be justified. Most of the time I don't buy Christian stuff just 'cause of the price!

It's like, "man, I've heard this album 3 years ago by another artist only not Christian..."


you mean like, Daniel Amos - Horrendous Disc, 1978 is a year after Electric Light Orchestra - Out Of The Blue, 1977

you mean like, Lost Dogs - Scenic Routes, 1992 is 4 years after Traveling Wilburys Vol. 1, 1988


yes, but Da- Darn Floor, Big Bite.... no comparision in the secular world....
but i wouldn't consider that ccm....... Big Grin


Posted by Dr Rich on 04-09-2003 at17:03:

 

quote:
Originally posted by carl
Personally, I'd've meant that Horrendous Disk was a year after some bad Steely Dan album (aka some Steely Dan album)....

...and that Scenic Routes was 22 years after Blind Faith (aka another supergroup that actually WORKED).... Tongue


Tongue

Blind Faith is the best!
Too bad they were only a one shot deal!

(Bad Steely Dan??? Never!)


Posted by bdavis on 04-09-2003 at17:35:

 

quote:
Originally posted by arcticsunburn
If CCM crap was actually quality music that had substance, that price would be justified. Most of the time I don't buy Christian stuff just 'cause of the price! It's like, "man, I've heard this album 3 years ago by another artist only not Christian..."


Granted mainstream CCM is not worth listening to, but I would never define groups such as 77's, Bleach, Ballydowse, Chevelle, Cush, DA, Ghoti Hook, Justified, MxPx, POD, Pillar, Rez, Reliant K, The Blamed, The Choir, The Juliana Theory, & Zao as crap.


Posted by Mark on 04-09-2003 at17:48:

 

quote:
Originally posted by brd2yrmother
quote:
Originally posted by Mark
CD's from Christian Bookstores ARE higher than nearly any other music store, not just Best Buy and Wal-Mart.


I don't think so. Barnes & Noble, Sam Goody, and the others that charge full retail for CDs. Prices are $18.98 for CDs now. I went to B&N the other day looking for something, and I was shocked by the prices. I think the Christian marketplace is generally a dollar less than the general market. That's retail prices. What the discount stores actually sell the CDs for is another matter. The sale prices are usually created by the Record labels too. It's not generally the individual store that determines a sale price on new releases (although some of them do).


Of course I am speaking of my town. And here Christian bookstores are the highest. It is rare to find CD's priced above $15.99 in any music store here.


Posted by Dr Rich on 04-09-2003 at19:13:

 

Sam Goody & Musicland as well as Barnes & Noble charge a boatload for their stuff.


Posted by Mark on 04-09-2003 at20:46:

 

I think we have a Musicland/Sam Goody in one of our malls, but I never go there, so I can't speak of the prices there. We have a huge Barnes & Noble but they only have one tiny rack with about 12 different CD's. I think they were $15.99.


Posted by brd2yrmother on 04-10-2003 at10:50:

 

I'm always looking at music stores. Wherever I go. I just can't help myself. Even the huge Virgin Megastore is expensive (17-19 bucks for a CD). Of course, they have specials of all the recent Top 40 crap which, IMHO, isn't too much different and certainly no better than the latest mainstream CCM crap you're always talking about. I think music from the Christian community has come a long way in the last 10 years. I don't think the general market or the Christian market is ever going to be dominated by really good bands. It's not what the mass general population wants. They want bland, feel-good, heavily produced, don't make me think about anything, popular (hense the word "pop") music.


Posted by Ron E on 04-10-2003 at22:39:

 

Hey, a mini tour for the Dogs it appears...


Posted by joey on 04-10-2003 at23:40:

 

i still don't have it.... Frown


Posted by dorfsmith on 04-10-2003 at23:51:

 

Me either.

By the way Bird, I agree with you 100% People don't want to think. They want to hear "Baby baby of baby yeah" or something like that. I like to consider myself part of the resistance. My music is not that good but I love the scared looks on peoples faces when they hear it for the first time Big Grin

I always have so many ideas for songs and concepts but I'm not talented enough and don't have the right tools to accomplish it on a big scale. You cant blame me for trying though Big Grin


Posted by Mark on 04-11-2003 at08:43:

 

The mainstream wants a song like:

Baby, I love you
You mean so much to me
Baby, I love you
OOOoohh, I love you

Baby, I love you
Oh really can't you see
Baby, I love you
OOOoohh, I love you


Posted by dorfsmith on 04-11-2003 at08:52:

 

Yes that's what I'm talking about.


Posted by brd2yrmother on 04-11-2003 at10:33:

 

Hey! I wrote that song......


Posted by .backs. on 04-11-2003 at10:35:

 

i wept when i first read it, birdy.


Posted by brd2yrmother on 04-11-2003 at10:36:

 

It's nice to know the lyrics are appreciated. It took me months to find just the right words.


Posted by brd2yrmother on 04-11-2003 at10:37:

 

At least it felt like months - it might've been 20 seconds.


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