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Posted by carl on 08-11-2004 at12:19:



So do I. But in a good way.

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Posted by Joey T. on 08-11-2004 at12:24:



can't sleep to crap!

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Posted by dorfsmith on 08-11-2004 at12:25:

 

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Posted by carl on 08-11-2004 at12:32:

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Originally posted by Joey T. can't sleep to crap!

Then get up, crap, THEN sleep....

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Posted by bereal on 08-11-2004 at14:59:

 

quote:

Originally posted by Bret 2.0 quote: Originally posted by bereal quote: Originally posted by Bret 2.0 The only other thing that I would request of the guys, is this...PLEASE make the albums longer than 35 minutes. Ok...that is a very selfish request. Very selfish... yet very valid! Please, oh please, oh please! Hey...I just figured out how to fix this problem. Save up and play two CD's at a time! I have Mutt & NCT in the player at one time, and it's about the same length as some of the earlier recordings.

Believe it or not, I already do that. Well, sort of. I have 3 CD disc changer in my living room, so I listen to 3 back to back. I get a whole lotta music outta that.

But in the car, it's 1 at a time. Dem short CDs end too soon!

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Posted by Mountain Fan on 08-12-2004 at10:00:

 

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Originally posted by carl OK, the part about still digging Real Men Cry anyway was off. But the rest of the analysis was dead-on.

Real Men Cry is great. If you're that worried about production, you need to get a life!

The only thing that bugged me a little on RMC is that the different drum style just seemed to not fit that well on a few songs, but not bad enough to be an issue.

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Posted by Bret 2.0 on 08-12-2004 at10:23:

 

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Originally posted by Mountain Fan quote: Originally posted by carl OK, the part about still digging Real Men Cry anyway was off. But the rest of the analysis was dead-on. Real Men Cry is great. If you're that worried about production, you need to get a life! The only thing that bugged me a little on RMC is that the different drum style just seemed to not fit that well on a few songs, but not bad enough to be an issue.

I guess I need to get a life.

The production mix was way too muddy sounding to be considered good. It was like the inputs were peaking too hot, and so it was distorted.

I like to hear the instruments, with the type of clarity that had been found in their other recordings.

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Posted by Mountain Fan on 08-12-2004 at10:46:

 

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Originally posted by Bret 2.0 quote: Originally posted by Mountain Fan quote: Originally posted by carl OK, the part about still digging Real Men Cry anyway was off. But the rest of the analysis was dead-on. Real Men Cry is great. If you're that worried about production, you need to get a life! The only thing that bugged me a little on RMC is that the different drum style just seemed to not fit that well on a few songs, but not bad enough to be an issue. I guess I need to get a life. The production mix was way too muddy sounding to be considered good. It was like the inputs were peaking too hot, and so it was distorted. I like to hear the instruments, with the type of clarity that had been found in their other recordings.

Take off the headphones, roll down the windows and get it over 100. No problems then!

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Posted by carl on 08-13-2004 at09:50:

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Originally posted by Mountain Fan quote: Originally posted by carl OK, the part about still digging Real Men Cry anyway was off. But the rest of the analysis was dead-on. Real Men Cry is great. If you're that worried about production, you need to get a life!

Well, normally production's the last thing on my mind. (Remember, y'r talking to the guy who played bass for five years before he realized what the pick-up switch was for.)

But when a CD by a band you normally love sounds sterile as all get-out, yet the same songs played live are WAY more enjoyable, let alone the version of "In the Distance" on the Dogs DVD being downright transformational (and again, y'r talking to the guy who normally hates live albums), there has to be SOME explanation for it. Where would YOU put it?

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Posted by Mountain Fan on 08-13-2004 at10:09:

 

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Originally posted by carl quote: Originally posted by Mountain Fan quote: Originally posted by carl OK, the part about still digging Real Men Cry anyway was off. But the rest of the analysis was dead-on. Real Men Cry is great. If you're that worried about production, you need to get a life! Well, normally production's the last thing on my mind. (Remember, y'r talking to the guy who played bass for five years before he realized what the pick-up switch was for.) But when a CD by a band you normally love sounds sterile as all get-out, yet the same songs played live are WAY more enjoyable, let alone the version of "In the Distance" on the Dogs DVD being downright transformational (and again, y'r talking to the guy who normally hates live albums), there has to be SOME explanation for it. Where would YOU put it?

You're not a rabid enough Dog fan and are hereby sentenced to listen to all of The Choir CDs nonstop for 30 days.

Aren't live shows almost always way more enjoyable than CDs?

Maybe my hearing is just worse than I thought.

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Posted by Bret 2.0 on 08-13-2004 at10:10:

 

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Originally posted by carl quote: Originally posted by Mountain Fan quote: Originally posted by carl OK, the part about still digging Real Men Cry anyway was off. But the rest of the analysis was dead-on. Real Men Cry is great. If you're that worried about production, you need to get a life! Well, normally production's the last thing on my mind. (Remember, y'r talking to the guy who played bass for five years before he realized what the pick-up switch was for.) But when a CD by a band you normally love sounds sterile as all get-out, yet the same songs played live are WAY more enjoyable, let alone the version of "In the Distance" on the Dogs DVD being downright transformational (and again, y'r talking to the guy who normally hates live albums), there has to be SOME explanation for it. Where would YOU put it?

For guys that have had such incredible albums, with wonderful production, RMC was a very poor example of their wonderful work.

As Carl has stated, I would rather listen to Mike & Terry performing much of those songs on a BBQ cd than listen to the RMC versions, just because on many of the BBQ cd's being better quality recordings than the original RMC.

I still listen to my RMC cd, but as you stated, it's best listened to while I am in my hotrod, with the windows down, with the dull roar of the dual exhaust, to help filter the "fuzzy production".

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Posted by Bret 2.0 on 08-13-2004 at10:13:

 

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Originally posted by Mountain Fan Aren't live shows almost always way more enjoyable than CDs?

I believe my 10yr old enjoys the banter between the songs more than listening to the songs, on the BBQ cd's! My wife, on the other hand, doesn't find listening to the same jokes very funny.

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Posted by carl on 08-13-2004 at10:28:

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Originally posted by Mountain Fan You're not a rabid enough Dog fan and are hereby sentenced to listen to all of The Choir CDs nonstop for 30 days.

My wife listens to Mutt every day. Isn't that close enough? (I finally figured my problem there -- it was so obvious -- even more so than the other Dogs albums, Mutt is a chick album!

quote:

Aren't live shows almost always way more enjoyable than CDs?

Live shows, quite often, yes. Albums of live shows, next to never.

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Maybe my hearing is just worse than I thought.

MayBE....

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Posted by Mountain Fan on 08-13-2004 at13:14:

 

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Originally posted by carl quote: Originally posted by Mountain Fan You're not a rabid enough Dog fan and are hereby sentenced to listen to all of The Choir CDs nonstop for 30 days. My wife listens to Mutt every day. Isn't that close enough? (I finally figured my problem there -- it was so obvious -- even more so than the other Dogs albums, Mutt is a chick album! quote: Aren't live shows almost always way more enjoyable than CDs? Live shows, quite often, yes. Albums of live shows, next to never. quote: Maybe my hearing is just worse than I thought. MayBE....

Mutt is a chick album. But it's definitely not an Egg Suckin Dog!

So, you didn't appreciate GRS Part Tour either?

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Posted by Bret 2.0 on 08-13-2004 at13:25:

 

I liked "part tour" because Gene was on it.

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Posted by carl on 08-13-2004 at13:30:



No, it's not an egg-suckin' dog -- regardless of how I feel about the new interpretations, the songs themselves ensure that. But it IS a chick album. Which explains a lot. Lots of people think Beaches is a wonderful movie too. And the fact that I'm not built that way doesn't make their claim untrue. But it won't work for me.

And y'r sort of right. I didn't bother buying GRS Part Tour & probably won't, because I'm pretty sure I'd play it three times then put it away forever. Others might like it. I don't like live albums, with a handful of notable exceptions, and THAT's my faithin' prerogative too.

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Posted by Mountain Fan on 08-13-2004 at13:34:

 

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Originally posted by carl No, it's not an egg-suckin' dog. But it IS a chick album. Which explains a lot. Lots of people think Beaches is a wonderful movie too. And the fact that I'm not built that way doesn't make their claim untrue. But it won't work for me. And y'r sort of right. I didn't bother buying GRS Part Tour & probably won't, because I'm pretty sure I'll play it three times and then put it away forever. Others might like it. I don't like live albums, and it's my faithin' prerogative not to.

Let's get this in black and white: Carl prefers dead faith albums - the very definition of modern CCM! He'll have none of that live holy crap!

So I take it you don't like Frampton Comes Alive either.

GRS Part Tour was great! Sorta like an early greatest hits live.

carl - the source of negative prerogatives? Wonder what will develop from all this?

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Posted by carl on 08-13-2004 at13:40:



Stupid faithin' quote button yet again....

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Posted by bereal on 08-14-2004 at22:05:

 

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Originally posted by carl No, it's not an egg-suckin' dog -- regardless of how I feel about the new interpretations, the songs themselves ensure that. But it IS a chick album. Which explains a lot. Lots of people think Beaches is a wonderful movie too. And the fact that I'm not built that way doesn't make their claim untrue. But it won't work for me. And y'r sort of right. I didn't bother buying GRS Part Tour & probably won't, because I'm pretty sure I'd play it three times then put it away forever. Others might like it. I don't like live albums, with a handful of notable exceptions, and THAT's my faithin' prerogative too.

Chick album? So that's why I love MUTT so much???????

As for Beaches, I did enjoy it!

As for GRS Part Tour: what's wrong with you carl? That is an awesome album!

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Posted by carl on 08-15-2004 at11:27:



Well, maybe someday when I become independently wealthy we'll BOTH know that....

In the meantime, still savin' up my pennies for that new Pedro the Faithin' Lion CD.... .... gotta do what the Holy Spirit tells me first, after all....