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This is an interesting one - the adultery is very bad in that movie, but it is also the ruin of everyone. They know it is wrong and still do it - so they pay for it. But the characters who truly fall in love seem to have a future........
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You've set my mind at ease on this movie. You're right- there are consequences to the adultery and it is clearly portrayed as wrong behavior. That follows my litmus test for proper portrayal of sinful behavior.
The characters that truly fall in love are Kip and the nurse, I suppose. There is a simplicity, a beauty and a purity to their love for each other. They land up being the only characters in the whole movie that I truly "liked" in the end.
On a similar subject, the consequences for sinful behavior are not clear in the book of Judges, either. I enjoy the book but it's very hard to explain to new believers for that reason.
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Two movies that anger me more than Titanic are: The Bridges of Madison County and The Horse Whisperer. Both of these portray an affair with a married woman as "love." That makes me want to puke and I walk out of movies that glorify adultery.
I can take teenage promiscuity better than adultery- that's my moral relativism.
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Ditto. I detest anything that promotes adultary. It's my pet peeve.
My wife left me for my closest male friend at the time.
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That's aweful - same thing happened to me though. We were about to have our 3rd anniversary - and then she was gone.
I am remarried now to an amazing woman and we have two beautiful girls
But my heart still aches sometimes....
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Two movies that anger me more than Titanic are: The Bridges of Madison County and The Horse Whisperer. Both of these portray an affair with a married woman as "love." That makes me want to puke and I walk out of movies that glorify adultery.
I can take teenage promiscuity better than adultery- that's my moral relativism.
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Ditto. I detest anything that promotes adultary. It's my pet peeve.
My wife left me for my closest male friend at the time.
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that sucks... Sorry to hear that 
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That's aweful - same thing happened to me though. We were about to have our 3rd anniversary - and then she was gone.
I am remarried now to an amazing woman and we have two beautiful girls
But my heart still aches sometimes....
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It was just before our 7th anniversary. Back in December of 1998.
They are still living together they have a son.
I don't actually miss her but I do miss the companionship.
Me - 3 1/2 years later I have a lot of woman (let's-just-be) friends.
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I think that movies plant ideas in our minds rather than "promote" things. Sometimes they are unsuccessful, and sometimes they are excessively successful. It is us humans who decide what to do with these ideas and information, and as a Christian it means we take the good, and filter out the rest.
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I think that movies plant ideas in our minds rather than "promote" things. Sometimes they are unsuccessful, and sometimes they are excessively successful. It is us humans who decide what to do with these ideas and information, and as a Christian it means we take the good, and filter out the rest.
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You're right that we can and should filter things; but what really angers me is that there are so many impressionable young females who could go one way or the other with their virginity because of some idiot director who worships the Sexual Revolution.
If I ever meet Billy Joel in a dark alley, that guy's toast, with his evil "Only the Good Die Young" song. That guy can take his piano and shove it up his ass; I don't care how much talent he has, he's a jerk. To sing that song in concert is child abuse. Imagine Roy Clark singing that. DJs playing it on the radio is child abuse too. Of course that's not the only evil song out there; but a song that begs a girl to give up her virginity is about as evil as it gets.
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Somehow society has eroded our sense of morals, and movies and music are a huge part of it. We'll never have censorship in this country, but I will not patronize the destruction of morals on our young.
Music probably has a greater influence than movies because music tends to play over and over in our subconsciences. That's why I play Christian music on my headset- I'm choosing my programming.
Billy Joel's song sounds a seduction argument. There are alot of songs like it- Let's Spend the Night Together by the Rolling Stones, for instance. The difference is that Joel mentioned a specific Christian group as his target for seduction in the line, "you Catholic girls start much too late..." I agree that it is reprehensible and I hate to think of how many it has tempted.
Temptation will come but woe to those who tempt any little one to sin. It would be better for them to tie a millstne around their neck and be thrown into the sea.
I left this board for over a month because I thought the conversation was playing into moral relativism on the subject of homosexuality, which is still a sin. I know there is a great guy on this board who is trapped in society's lie that it's a lifestyle or a genetic disposition (meaning.. it's God's fault).
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Welcome back, servantsteve. Some of us didn't give in to relativism - even though we still feel called to love the person - Jesus wept - one of the most chilling verses......we break God's heart of hearts everyday....and yet He loves us
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Originally posted by servantsteve
Somehow society has eroded our sense of morals, and movies and music are a huge part of it. We'll never have censorship in this country, but I will not patronize the destruction of morals on our young.
Music probably has a greater influence than movies because music tends to play over and over in our subconsciences. That's why I play Christian music on my headset- I'm choosing my programming.
Billy Joel's song sounds a seduction argument. There are alot of songs like it- Let's Spend the Night Together by the Rolling Stones, for instance. The difference is that Joel mentioned a specific Christian group as his target for seduction in the line, "you Catholic girls start much too late..." I agree that it is reprehensible and I hate to think of how many it has tempted.
Temptation will come but woe to those who tempt any little one to sin. It would be better for them to tie a millstne around their neck and be thrown into the sea.
I left this board for over a month because I thought the conversation was playing into moral relativism on the subject of homosexuality, which is still a sin. I know there is a great guy on this board who is trapped in society's lie that it's a lifestyle or a genetic disposition (meaning.. it's God's fault).
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It's not God's fault.
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It's not God's fault.
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Tell me you didn't read that whole post and come to the conclusion that I was blaming God for anything. I was referring to the latest ploy by the gay community to label homosexuality as "genetic." Such a ploy attempts to shift the responsibility from the participant to the creator.
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I knew exactly what you were talking about. You must have missed my response to someone else on another thread. I did not like that he said that because God loves him, God made him homosexual.
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Thanks for clearing that up. Sorry I got confused- if I read your earlier post, I would have understood. My bad!
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I knew exactly what you were talking about. You must have missed my response to someone else on another thread. I did not like that he said that because God loves him, God made him homosexual.
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I hope God never loves me that much....
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me neither - I have trouble with the fact that it is usually the most vocal proponents of evolution (survival of the fittest) who are also the most vocal about homosexuality being genetic - wouldn't it have died out eons ago if it was genetic? It really confuses me.....How can you hold both positions...
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I knew exactly what you were talking about. You must have missed my response to someone else on another thread. I did not like that he said that because God loves him, God made him homosexual.
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God loves me so he made me stupid. 
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God loves me so he made me dance...
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you can dance if you want to
you can leave your friends behind
because....
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