Daniel Amos Message Board » DA Related Discussion » General Discussion » The Pool » Hello Guest [Login|Register] Last Post | First Unread Post Print Page | Add Thread to Favorites Pages (2): [1] 2 next » The Pool Author Post « Previous Thread | Next Thread » arcticsunburn Ceremonial Kernel Registration Date: 06-10-2002 Posts: 2,084 Location: Guitar; A way to express what words can't describe, and a moment of peace in a chaotic world. The Pool        I went out for a walk today, and was listening to Fearful Symmetry. I've always thought "The Pool" was a cool song, but it kinda hit me hard today. Maybe I'm just stupid, but I just realized that the song's about being baptized (just watch me be wrong and feel even more stupid). __________________ David Andrew Wiebe www.daw-music.com www.arcticsunburn.com 06-03-2003 23:23 BD Ceremonial Kernel Registration Date: 07-16-2002 Posts: 2,294 heh heh Maybe you should come out of the cold and let your brain warm up a little? 06-03-2003 23:26 dorfsmith Grand Encephalon Registration Date: 03-24-2002 Posts: 28,142 Location: Everybody needs a persicom I explained once before that that's why the naked guy is coming out of the water. __________________ http://www.google.com 06-03-2003 23:32 Gort unregistered what naked guy? 06-03-2003 23:48 .backs. Tallowy Tamale Registration Date: 03-13-2003 Posts: 7,777 Location: "An autoposy will make him into a dorf-o-lantern on the Mesaage Boards ." The one on the cover of FS? __________________ "Dorf can have his monk cakes, I live in a world built on inspirations divined from bonfires." 06-03-2003 23:54 arcticsunburn Ceremonial Kernel Registration Date: 06-10-2002 Posts: 2,084 Location: Guitar; A way to express what words can't describe, and a moment of peace in a chaotic world. Thread Starter quote: Originally posted by BD heh heh Maybe you should come out of the cold and let your brain warm up a little? I just need to actually listen to these songs sometime. __________________ David Andrew Wiebe www.daw-music.com www.arcticsunburn.com 06-04-2003 00:19 ProdigalDog Unsullied Affiche Registration Date: 05-20-2003 Posts: 26 The Pool        The Pool is one of my favorite DA tunes. It is refreshing to find a contemporary song that speaks to the matter of baptism. This is a topic that most churches don't really know how to deal with so they minimalize it or, is some cases, almost criminalize it. 06-04-2003 07:05 John Foxe Woolly Eggwhisk Registration Date: 03-12-2002 Posts: 654 Location: Elkhart, Indiana Rather, I think        Rather, it's clear to me it's the idea of Romans 6:4, being baptised into death with Christ, and rising up. You see how he stands on the fountain of doubt. Then he goes down, then rises up, as a swan. It's faith in Jesus that transforms - once for all - the person into a beautiful child of God. __________________ I'm a middle-aged hitchhiker... LetsSpin@comcast.net 06-04-2003 08:20 Gamgee Ceremonial Kernel Registration Date: 03-14-2002 Posts: 1,060 Location: Somewhere out there... quote: Originally posted by dorfsmith I explained once before that that's why the naked guy is coming out of the water. I thought he was doin situps... 06-04-2003 08:53 ProdigalDog Unsullied Affiche Registration Date: 05-20-2003 Posts: 26 "The pool is very deep and cool and nothing here is hard to do        "The pool is very deep and cool and nothing here is hard to do Nothing that should trouble you" Shrouded forms that start and sigh As they pass this wanderer by Lakes that endlessly outspread Foamy blanket river beds Chorus: I stand, stand by the water, knee deep Deep in the fountain, now down, I go under Then rise up, rise up forever The waves that mount and tumble high I meet the melancholy sky And all I have I count for loss There in the clouds one single cross Repeat chorus "Yes, deeply I have slept And now I rise as one who has gone down Into the well springs of new life Down across the milk white sands I wade out into the sleepy cove And bathe in the holy stream Then suddenly I shatter the level mirror of the lake Repeat chorus Upon an everlasting tide Into the silent pool I glide I plunge to wash this black heart clean And rise a swan upon the wing Repeat chorus ------------------------------------------- Nothing in here about 'standing on a fountain of doubt'. It is just plain beautiful imagery of scriptural baptism. Yes, I agree that Jesus does the transforming. That is not an issue here. I think my point still stands, though. 06-04-2003 09:03 John Foxe Woolly Eggwhisk Registration Date: 03-12-2002 Posts: 654 Location: Elkhart, Indiana I disagree        Not a big deal but the words ARE there, just not in the same sentence. The imagery is clear to me. You don't rise a swan after baptism - the swan comes before, from faith in Jesus, and the baptism of Romans 6 represents that. Also, I would reference 1 Peter 3:21, it's not the removal of dirt from the literal water, but the appeal to a good conscience that comes from faith alone. This is an important distinction from someone who believes the way I do - that there's nothing magical about the water - to someone who douses themselves or their kids to ostensibly get them into the kingdom. ) __________________ I'm a middle-aged hitchhiker... LetsSpin@comcast.net 06-04-2003 10:28 ProdigalDog Unsullied Affiche Registration Date: 05-20-2003 Posts: 26 I disagree too        Nothing I posted is about the water. I don't know where you got that and I think you miss my point, yet at the same time you underscore my original point. I never stated that the purpose of baptism is to remove dirt from the physical body or that there is some kind of magic about the water. It's all about grace based on obedient faith. I don't see the problem there. 06-04-2003 12:11 Theo Ceremonial Kernel Registration Date: 03-22-2002 Posts: 1,700 Location: Bellingham, WA I've posted this before        but it just seems to be apropos to this thread. My son, Andrew; his very last words were sung in whisper to the CD playing in the background: "I stand, stand by the water, knee deep Deep in the fountain, now down, I go under Then rise up, rise up forever" I can't imagine anything preaching more brilliantly. 06-04-2003 12:56 .GORT. Esculent Eskimo Registration Date: 06-02-2003 Posts: 42 Beautiful 06-04-2003 13:30 Mark Moderator Registration Date: 03-18-2002 Posts: 9,525 Location: Grand Encephalon - Words have their place but live what you say God can have His way when you hit them with Love The Pool is one of my very favorite DA songs. __________________ But never, never pin your whole faith on any human being: not if he is the best and wisest in the whole world. - C.S. Lewis 06-04-2003 20:47 Gamgee Ceremonial Kernel Registration Date: 03-14-2002 Posts: 1,060 Location: Somewhere out there... quote: Originally posted by Mark The Pool is one of my very favorite DA songs. Ditto 06-04-2003 22:51 JR88 Disjasked Lerna Registration Date: 05-01-2003 Posts: 4,896 Location: The Earth Household. quote: Originally posted by arcticsunburn I went out for a walk today, and was listening to Fearful Symmetry. I've always thought "The Pool" was a cool song, but it kinda hit me hard today. Maybe I'm just stupid, but I just realized that the song's about being baptized (just watch me be wrong and feel even more stupid). Well if your stupid I'm with you cause I didn't realize it talked about baptism until 10 years later. LOL __________________ 06-04-2003 22:52 .backs. Tallowy Tamale Registration Date: 03-13-2003 Posts: 7,777 Location: "An autoposy will make him into a dorf-o-lantern on the Mesaage Boards ." i will not say, "DS," but i agree with Mark and the hobbit __________________ "Dorf can have his monk cakes, I live in a world built on inspirations divined from bonfires." 06-05-2003 00:20 arcticsunburn Ceremonial Kernel Registration Date: 06-10-2002 Posts: 2,084 Location: Guitar; A way to express what words can't describe, and a moment of peace in a chaotic world. Thread Starter quote: Originally posted by Driver8 quote: Originally posted by arcticsunburn I went out for a walk today, and was listening to Fearful Symmetry. I've always thought "The Pool" was a cool song, but it kinda hit me hard today. Maybe I'm just stupid, but I just realized that the song's about being baptized (just watch me be wrong and feel even more stupid). Well if your stupid I'm with you cause I didn't realize it talked about baptism until 10 years later. LOL For me it was about after 10 listens so I don't feel so bad. __________________ David Andrew Wiebe www.daw-music.com www.arcticsunburn.com 06-05-2003 00:31 arcticsunburn Ceremonial Kernel Registration Date: 06-10-2002 Posts: 2,084 Location: Guitar; A way to express what words can't describe, and a moment of peace in a chaotic world. Thread Starter quote: Originally posted by ProdigalDog The Pool is one of my favorite DA tunes. It is refreshing to find a contemporary song that speaks to the matter of baptism. This is a topic that most churches don't really know how to deal with so they minimalize it or, is some cases, almost criminalize it. Indeed. There was this one incident in Japan where one of the members of Bible study asked to be baptized by my father. So he did. The church did not allow him the use of the facilities anymore (because the bible studies were being done there at the time). It was kinda hard to take. I don't think they realized what kind of qualifications my father had. __________________ David Andrew Wiebe www.daw-music.com www.arcticsunburn.com 06-05-2003 00:34 Pages (2): [1] 2 next » Tree Structure | Board Structure Jump to: Please select: -------------------- DA Related Discussion-- General Discussion-- Upcoming Releases-- CD & DVD Reviews-- Larry - Lucy I'm In LoveFAQs and Notices Daniel Amos Message Board » DA Related Discussion » General Discussion » The Pool Forum Software: Burning Board 2.3.6, Developed by WoltLab GmbH