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I love the Eddies song Billy Graham . I think that Billy has been a pillar in many ways. However, I disagree with him theologically and I disagree with his support of Tricky Dicky and the statement concerning Jews. Do you think his recorded statement from the early 70's takes anything away from the character displayed in such songs as the one Terry wrote? I think we all have worn disguises at times, and I wonder now if the statement ain't wearin' no disguise was always true. As he himself would say, "We're all sinners."
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Lost Canine
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Yes, I agree BD, just trying to get a little healthy controversy going. I loved the Bee Gees in the 70's, God forbid.
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Lost Canine
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Now I'm as bad as Dennis, replying to my own postings! I think that the theme for many of our "bad" threads should be Stayin' Alive .
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Lost Canine
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I'll bring this back a little to the serious side. How come Billy is lifted up for advising crooks like Nixon, but Campolo is bashed for dealing with Clinton? Both Presidents were/are sinners in need of grace. I have heard Christians bash Campolo so much, when he was doing what others should have been doing.
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I'll bring this back a little to the serious side. How come Billy is lifted up for advising crooks like Nixon, but Campolo is bashed for dealing with Clinton? Both Presidents were/are sinners in need of grace. I have heard Christians bash Campolo so much, when he was doing what others should have been doing.
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I just wish we (New Zealand)had a Christian of any sort who advised our countries leaders. Or a leader who would even listen to a Christian full stop.
Just recently the Queen of England visited our fair shores. Now she is the head of the Anglican Church and so at the dinner our Prime Minister said they would not have grace at a banquet as we are a secular nation. :X
The leader of the opposition is a Catholic (and distant cousin of mine) So I know what party I'll be voting for.
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Lost Canine
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I do think that many Presidents have listened to Christian leaders here in the USA. I think that several have turned a deaf ear to the advice, but they have listened.
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I love the Eddies song Billy Graham . I think that Billy has been a pillar in many ways. However, I disagree with him theologically and I disagree with his support of Tricky Dicky and the statement concerning Jews. Do you think his recorded statement from the early 70's takes anything away from the character displayed in such songs as the one Terry wrote? I think we all have worn disguises at times, and I wonder now if the statement ain't wearin' no disguise was always true. As he himself would say, "We're all sinners."
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Well, no one's perfect. Everyone sins and makes mistakes along the way. As the other Mr. Taylor once said, "Jesus is the only hero worth following."
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Lost Canine
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I know Gamgee, I was just "stirring the pot." I like Billy G. and I love the song too.
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I always thought the song was in light of the Tammy Fayes and
Swaggarts- kind of a-
Hes not like THOSE other guys
and he always had an accepting heart for what the "kids" were up to
YFC and Dave Wilkerson (though he makes me shtuer a bit)and DC Talk and etc.
that kind of thing..and hey-we ALL make mistakes
I voted for Reagen!
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We are not judges...
Test a man by the fruit he produces.
What has Billy done for christianity? How many souls have been spared. Has he been caught in adultary? Has he paid his taxes?
Cast the first stone at Billy and we will all know YOU have sinned not.
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Lost Canine
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Shemp,
This is my "tongue-in-cheek" response, so don't get too ticked off. I am curious if a stadium 10-minute altar call really does do anything for the Kingdom other than stir some emotions. Now I'll probably be accused of "judging," when I'm only having fun. I do know that his association pushes for follow-up and discipleship. I often think though that he's been more political than anything.
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I'll bring this back a little to the serious side. How come Billy is lifted up for advising crooks like Nixon, but Campolo is bashed for dealing with Clinton? Both Presidents were/are sinners in need of grace. I have heard Christians bash Campolo so much, when he was doing what others should have been doing.
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"How come Billy is lifted up for advising crooks like Nixon, but Campolo is bashed for dealing with Clinton? "
- I think it is really a major shift in public sentiment since the 70's, that's all. I also think it is an unfortunate shift in the wrong direction.
People are generally very happy in this day and age to catch sinners "red handed" - I think it makes them feel superior. The concept "for all have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God" is completely foreign to our society and culture. Even to Christians!
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Shemp,
This is my "tongue-in-cheek" response, so don't get too ticked off. I am curious if a stadium 10-minute altar call really does do anything for the Kingdom other than stir some emotions. Now I'll probably be accused of "judging," when I'm only having fun. I do know that his association pushes for follow-up and discipleship. I often think though that he's been more political than anything.
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Planting seeds...
10 minute alter calls are better than none.
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Lost Canine
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I disagree, I think that the 10 minute altar call has done more harm than good. Just my lost thoughts.
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The Eddies song "Billy", I think, was to balance out "Attack of the Pulpit Masters" and "Dr. Edward Daniel Taylor".
The thing I was most dissappointed by was NO preacher's ability to have an answer for why 9/11 happened. Everybody was asking why God would let this happen and Billy's response was as miserable as everyone elses.
It's a little thing called THE FALL , HELLO?!
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Okay Fido...
Give us an example of someone who has introduced the globe to the idea of Christ as much as Billy has.
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Okay Fido...
Give us an example of someone who has introduced the globe to the idea of Christ as much as Billy has.
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Okay Fido...
Give us an example of someone who has introduced the globe to the idea of Christ as much as Billy has.
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And don't forget Elvis.
I just love his Amazing Grace.
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