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Kaf-N-8ed 
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I disagree, I think that the 10 minute altar call has done more harm than good. Just my lost thoughts.
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I think I may agree about the alter calls thing.
But, to think about this issue... I used to meet Winos when I worked with street kids who "got saved" every time Billy Graham came to town. They would also "get saved" when other evangelists came to town, or when they would happen to stumble into a Church somewhere. Or even when some soup kitchen had a guest speaker.
But, when I think about it:
Who is more likely to be saved and enter the Kingdom of Heaven:
a) a wino that "gets saved" at a Billy Graham crusade every two or three years,
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b) a televangeist driving around in his white cadillac?
~Kaf
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06-06-2002 12:22 |
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Shemp
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Okay Fido...
Give us an example of someone who has introduced the globe to the idea of Christ as much as Billy has.
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Fair enough...
But she stayed in India... a nation that is about to blow itself up.
At least Billy gets around, at least he used to.
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Lost Canine
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This one will probably take some heat, but I would add Pope John Paul II to the list as well.
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jc
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This one will probably take some heat, but I would add Pope John Paul II to the list as well.
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DOH!
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06-06-2002 13:02 |
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Woggy
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The thing I was most dissappointed by was NO preacher's ability to have an answer for why 9/11 happened. Everybody was asking why God would let this happen and Billy's response was as miserable as everyone elses.
It's a little thing called THE FALL , HELLO?!
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I don't know if you've seen/heard this, but if Billy didn't have the answer, his daughter certainly did.
Check here:
Anne Graham Lotz's Answer to Sept 11
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I have personally always respected Billy Graham. His association with Richard Nixon might not have been the best thing for his "image", but then, Billy has been close to MANY presidents....Bill Clinton among them.
I think, when I see Mr. Graham, that he is a man who has transitioned from the "hellfire and brimstone" preacher, to a mellower, more caring, more compassionate man. His demeanor is kinder, and he seems (to me) to be even MORE Christ-like in his approach.
Yeah, he's made mistakes and said dumb things. Who hasn't? His public-eye life, however, has shown almost NO improprieties - pretty incredible in this day and age. His wife has stood by his side, his children are following the Lord (even Franklin, who has had his share of controversy, has mellowed some.....and turned back to the God of his youth.)
We all change and grow and become.............that's the way God made us. I admire Billy very much, and think his influence on the Christian scene has been tremendous. Ten minute altar calls? Well, that's better than 10 minutes of nothing.
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jc
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I know (and you probably do too)
people who have spent literally hours at an alter cryin and slobbering-
and live like rascals as soon as they leave
Jailhouse religion- only in church
Jc
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Woggy
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There aren't many churches/places of worship that do altar calls at ALL anymore.
If it brings someone to the realization that they need Jesus, does it HAVE to take more than a moment? Nope. Not in my opinion.
Been there myself a few times - and my first altar experience was brief. It started a progression of change that continues today. s'okay wid me 
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