Daniel Amos Message Board » DA Related Discussion » General Discussion » Is it ethical? » Hello Guest [Login|Register] Last Post | First Unread Post Print Page | Add Thread to Favorites Pages (2): [1] 2 next » Is it ethical? Author Post « Previous Thread | Next Thread » servantsteve Disjasked Lerna Registration Date: 07-02-2002 Posts: 4,168 Location: Ole Virginny Is it ethical?        I found this listing on eBay. They are selling a CD-R recording along with an LP of the same title, but the CDR was recorded off of a CD, not the LP. Is this an ethical practice? I think it is legal, but with discussions here I wonder about its ethicality. Opinions? __________________ This is where I put my signature. 05-28-2003 22:20 SMACK-A-SAURUS REX Esculent Eskimo Registration Date: 05-22-2003 Posts: 40 Location: South Texas i know of a guy who sells ccm online , and he claims that if you own an original recording you have the right to own a copy for personal use. and that it does'nt matter what the copy was made from.(ie..cassette, lp, or cd). 05-28-2003 23:46 Joey T. Tallowy Tamale Registration Date: 03-13-2002 Posts: 7,777 Location: you can't fire me, 'cuz i quit! - Kurt Cobain.... if nobody will so anything to get us a re-issue of the cd, i see nothing wrong with it.... what are you supposed to do? pay 50 bucks on e-bay for an original cd? $#%* that! if the cd is in print, then that would be a different story.......... __________________ 05-29-2003 00:03 audiori Administrator Registration Date: 03-12-2002 Posts: 11,145 Location: Missouri The ethical question and the legal one don't always go hand in hand. There are a lot of misinformed people out there when it comes to the legal right you have at making a backup. You have the right to make 1 backup for yourself, if you sell the original you are supposed to destroy the backup. And according to the way it's written, you have a right to make it for yourself, not someone else make it for you. I am not arguing it's a smart law or that it should be that way or the ethics. But, people are mistaken when they think they have a loophole. The fact is, the authorities just don't bother going after one guy making one copy. they go after the guy making lots of copies. __________________ "Blessed is he who expecteth nothing, for he shall enjoy everything" -St. Francis of Assisi "A strange fanaticism fills our time: the fanatical hatred of morality, especially of Christian morality." - GK Chesterton 05-29-2003 00:16 Joey T. Tallowy Tamale Registration Date: 03-13-2002 Posts: 7,777 Location: you can't fire me, 'cuz i quit! - Kurt Cobain.... quote: Originally posted by audiori The fact is, the authorities just don't bother going after one guy making one copy. they go after the guy making lots of copies. which is why danielamos.com can't sell "legal" cd-rs like the choir and undercover do of albums that might cost more to do a true re-issue than it may be worth..... __________________ 05-29-2003 00:21 Dr Rich Ubique Epoque Registration Date: 03-15-2002 Posts: 9,986 Location: Hoverkrafti im është plot me ngjala. quote: Originally posted by audiori The fact is, the authorities just don't bother going after one guy making one copy. they go after the guy making lots of copies. It seems like the intent is to go after the guy making and selling lots of copies. __________________ 05-29-2003 09:55 Dr Rich Ubique Epoque Registration Date: 03-15-2002 Posts: 9,986 Location: Hoverkrafti im është plot me ngjala. quote: Originally posted by Joey T. quote: Originally posted by audiori The fact is, the authorities just don't bother going after one guy making one copy. they go after the guy making lots of copies. which is why danielamos.com can't sell "legal" cd-rs like the choir and undercover do of albums that might cost more to do a true re-issue than it may be worth..... What the DA store should do is sell mp3s of out of print songs and CDs. __________________ 05-29-2003 09:56 JR88 Disjasked Lerna Registration Date: 05-01-2003 Posts: 4,896 Location: The Earth Household. __________________ 05-29-2003 11:27 jiminy Tallowy Tamale Registration Date: 11-16-2002 Posts: 9,494 __________________ jiMinY theres nothing to EVER put here that will please everyone-let alone anyone. 05-29-2003 11:57 jiminy Tallowy Tamale Registration Date: 11-16-2002 Posts: 9,494 __________________ jiMinY theres nothing to EVER put here that will please everyone-let alone anyone. 05-29-2003 11:58 JR88 Disjasked Lerna Registration Date: 05-01-2003 Posts: 4,896 Location: The Earth Household. <Woooooo Hoooooo!!!!! 500 posts!!!!!!! Do I get a cake or something? Or just a swift kick in the ass.... __________________ 05-29-2003 12:13 Joey T. Tallowy Tamale Registration Date: 03-13-2002 Posts: 7,777 Location: you can't fire me, 'cuz i quit! - Kurt Cobain.... quote: Originally posted by Dr Rich What the DA store should do is sell mp3s of out of print songs and CDs. that would be a good idea, dennis.... as soon as the have the rights to all of their own damb music! __________________ 05-29-2003 12:50 Dr Rich Ubique Epoque Registration Date: 03-15-2002 Posts: 9,986 Location: Hoverkrafti im është plot me ngjala. well yeah, that too! __________________ 05-29-2003 13:48 Asherman Mind Peach Registration Date: 04-12-2002 Posts: 196 Location: OR quote: Originally posted by Driver8 <Woooooo Hoooooo!!!!! 500 posts!!!!!!! Do I get a cake or something? Or just a swift kick in the ass.... ...Well. ...how 'bout a cookie! __________________ 05-29-2003 14:38 JR88 Disjasked Lerna Registration Date: 05-01-2003 Posts: 4,896 Location: The Earth Household. With Milk Please __________________ 05-29-2003 14:39 audiori Administrator Registration Date: 03-12-2002 Posts: 11,145 Location: Missouri Yeah the legal CDR thing is good for making short runs of albums that you do own the rights to. Generally, that kind of thing is a last resort or to raise some money for another project. Because part of whats cool about an album is the look, the cover, etc. Like Darn Floor, I would hate to do a reissue without the cool cover. Think about a Mr Buechners Dream reissue on a coverless CDR..... wouldn't seem right. Another thing we try to judge is which reissue we think we could sell enough to make the money back... it would be hard to put out the next reissue if you don't make your money back off the first one. Things like the fan club discs are good that way, it would be nice to do them with a cover and jewelcase. But, we would lose money on them to do that because of the quantity made. And the whole point is to raise money to support Terry and new releases and give the fans a cool bit of otherwise unreleased material. We probably are going to discuss a better way to do the packaging for the fan club discs... just because of the time involved. __________________ "Blessed is he who expecteth nothing, for he shall enjoy everything" -St. Francis of Assisi "A strange fanaticism fills our time: the fanatical hatred of morality, especially of Christian morality." - GK Chesterton 05-29-2003 15:16 Joey T. Tallowy Tamale Registration Date: 03-13-2002 Posts: 7,777 Location: you can't fire me, 'cuz i quit! - Kurt Cobain.... of course a re-issue would be best.... but i have been hearing about possible re-issues for as long as this site has existed.... i know money is the issue holding these back.... if i had the money, i would finance a re-issue of DFBB, Outdoor Elvis, Let's Spin, and all the others that are hard to find.... but..... my only "legal" copy of those albums is on cassette, and i am not going to pay 50 bucks for an original on e-bay...... no way.. so, if re-issues can get done, then great, lets do it.... if not, or it may be years, lets at least get some legal cd-rs....... "will have to do for now........" __________________ 05-29-2003 15:41 One Weigh or the Highweigh Normal Noggin Registration Date: 04-11-2003 Posts: 9 Location: I am Right.........all the time! Repent you lost sinners! Come home to mother Rome! a "real fan" will fork over th 50 bucks on e-bay for the originals.... 05-29-2003 17:09 Joey T. Tallowy Tamale Registration Date: 03-13-2002 Posts: 7,777 Location: you can't fire me, 'cuz i quit! - Kurt Cobain.... __________________ 05-29-2003 18:53 Mark Moderator Registration Date: 03-18-2002 Posts: 9,525 Location: Grand Encephalon - Words have their place but live what you say God can have His way when you hit them with Love __________________ But never, never pin your whole faith on any human being: not if he is the best and wisest in the whole world. - C.S. Lewis 05-29-2003 18:56 Pages (2): [1] 2 next » Tree Structure | Board Structure Jump to: Please select: -------------------- DA Related Discussion-- General Discussion-- Upcoming Releases-- CD & DVD Reviews-- Larry - Lucy I'm In LoveFAQs and Notices Daniel Amos Message Board » DA Related Discussion » General Discussion » Is it ethical? Forum Software: Burning Board 2.3.6, Developed by WoltLab GmbH